Six days. Two coasts. The US, on the inside.
Dutch scale-up founders inside Utah's quiet powerhouse and the Bay Area's loudest one. Podium, Cotopaxi, Pattern, Pelion, Adyen-of-the-Rockies-style operators in SLC; SVB Sand Hill, GitLab's Sid Sijbrandij, Contextual AI, and the Consulate to close. Operated with ScaleNL.
By the numbers
In pictures
A walk through the week — Delta Center, Build Utah, Edison House, the University Club of San Francisco.
The week, session by session
Two halves. Utah's operator depth on the front end, the Bay Area's velocity on the back.
Welcome to the US
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Arrivals
Salt Lake CityCohort lands at SLC. Sheraton SLC as base. The trip starts with the people, not a panel.
Utah immersion
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Doing Business in Utah — breakfast briefing
World Trade Center Utah · Governor's Office of Economic OpportunityWhy Utah keeps quietly outrunning the coasts on operator density and capital efficiency. The state-of-state from the people running it.
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Q&A with the founders of Podium
Podium HQ · Lehi · Eric Rea & Dennis Steele · Co-founders, PodiumBuilding a category-defining SMB software business from outside the Bay Area. Live Q&A, unfiltered.
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Networking lunch with Album VC
Album VC HQThe Dutch cohort meets the Utah portfolio. The guest list becomes a working group.
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Fireside — raising capital & global expansion
Album VC HQ · Sid Krommenhoek (Album) with David Blake (Degreed), Rob van den Heuvel (Sendcloud) & Constantijn van OranjeTwo founders who scaled globally from very different starting lines. One investor who has backed both kinds. One conversation.
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NBA night at the Delta Center
Delta Center · Salt Lake City · Hosted by Ryan Smith · Owner, Utah JazzNot a session. The kind of evening that turns a cohort into a network.
Inspiration & connection
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Utah — a rising star in tech · breakfast panel
Cotopaxi HQ · Stephen Jacob (Cotopaxi), Brock Blake (Lendio), Shaun Ritchie (nClouds)Three operators on what's pulling builders and capital into Utah — and what the Bay Area still does better.
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Utah Capitol Hill visit
Utah State CapitolA guided tour. A group photo on the east steps. A reminder that the state takes the tech industry seriously at the top.
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PillPack fireside — selling a company to Amazon
Edison House · TJ Parker (Founder, PillPack), Geoff Swindle (former CBO, PillPack), Nick Efstratis (EPIC Ventures)The billion-dollar acquisition story, told by the founder, the CBO, and the early investor at the same table.
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Q&A with Pattern's co-founders
Pattern Global HQ · Lehi · David Wright & Melanie Alder · Co-founders, PatternBuilding the world's largest global e-commerce accelerator. What scales, what breaks, what they'd do differently.
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Pelion VC Private Summit + matchmaking dinner
Pelion Ventures · Keynote by Sarika Garg (Cacheflow) · panel with Blake Modersitzki, Jeff Kearl (former CEO, Stance) & Sterling SnowExclusive summit with Pelion's portfolio founders. The kind of room you don't walk into off a cold email.
From Salt Lake to Sand Hill
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SLC → San Francisco
Delta · DL 741 / DL 2414Cohort relocates. CitizenM Union Square as the SF base.
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State of the Markets — keynote & panel
SVB · 222 Second Street · Gerald Brady (MD, SVB) · Eli Oftedal (Sr. Researcher, SVB) · Marvin Liao (Diaspora VC) · Keshia Theobald-van Gent (BDEV Ventures)The SVB 'State of the Markets' read on US venture, followed by a working panel on what the data means for European founders raising in 2024.
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Founder dinner with Mike Lewis — 'When to Jump'
University Club of San Francisco · Mike Lewis (BDT & MSD Partners), moderated by Ryan PatelThe Jump Curve, in conversation. EU founders, Bay Area operators, and an author who's interviewed hundreds of them.
Sand Hill Road
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Defining your company's principles
SVB Sand Hill Road · Palo Alto · Jack Fuchs · Operating Partner, Blackhorn Ventures (Stanford lecturer)Not a talk. A working exercise — every founder leaves with the two or three principles they actually run their company on.
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Founder AMA — Contextual AI
SVB Sand Hill Road · Palo Alto · Douwe Kiela · Co-founder & CEO, Contextual AIA Dutch ML researcher turned Stanford lecturer turned AI founder. Live Q&A on the technical and the unglamorous.
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AI for a brighter future — keynote
SVB Sand Hill Road · Palo Alto · Vivienne Ming · Co-founder & CEO, Socos LabsNeuroscience, AI, and the long view. One of the BBC's Top 100 women, in full.
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Dinner at the home of Sid Sijbrandij
Private residence · San Francisco · Sid Sijbrandij (Co-founder & CEO, GitLab) · fireside between Constantijn van Oranje and Marcelo Lebre (President & Co-founder, Remote)The conversation you don't get on stage. Two Dutch-rooted founders running globally distributed public-and-near-public companies, in a living room.
Product-led, then home
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Product-led growth — closing session
Netherlands Consulate General · San Francisco · Rene Bonvanie · ex-CMO, Palo Alto Networks · Venture Partner, Battery VenturesThe PLG playbook from the operator who ran the GTM at one of the most valuable security companies in the world.
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Debrief & departure
Netherlands Consulate General · San FranciscoGroup photo on the consulate steps. A short debrief. By early afternoon the cohort is heading to SFO — different people than the ones who landed in Salt Lake.
Who was in the room
Fourteen Dutch scale-up founders, one shared question: what does it actually take to win in the US?
What founders walked away with
- A working read on the US capital market in 2024 — directly from SVB's research team, not a newsletter.
- Operator-level access to Podium, Pattern, Lendio, Cotopaxi and Pelion's portfolio — the Utah playbook for capital-efficient scaling.
- A first-hand account of selling a company to Amazon, from PillPack's founder, CBO, and seed investor at the same table.
- Working sessions with Sid Sijbrandij (GitLab) and Marcelo Lebre (Remote) on running a globally distributed company at scale.
- A cohort of Dutch scale-up founders now on first-name terms with each other and the operators they met — a network that outlasts the trip.
Who we sat down with
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